"When I tell you, if I had $1 for every time they told me he wasn't going to make it through the night, I would have a nice chunk of money."
In 1957, at just 38 years old, the soon-to-become founding father of DOPS, Dr. Ian Stevenson, was appointed Professor and Chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Virginia. He had the honor of being one of the youngest appointees to hold the position in the history of the school.
The following list is designed to give an idea of what a parent or caregiver might hear from a child reporting memories of a previous life. This list is not meant to be exhaustive as these statements can be quite varied.
List of Statement Examples
- “You’re not my mommy/daddy.”
- “I have another mommy/daddy.”
- “When I was big, I … (used to have blue eyes, have a car, worked downtown, etc.).”
- “That happened before I was in mommy’s tummy.”
- “I have a wife/husband/children.”
- “I used to … (drive a truck/live in another town, etc.)”
- “I died … (in a car accident/after I fell, etc.)”
- “Remember when I … (lived in that other house, was your daddy, etc.)”
Ten years later, in 1967, Dr. Stevenson resigned from his post in order to found the Division of Perceptual Studies, the result of a lifelong mission to explore reincarnation and investigate whether there was a scientific basis to study it.
DOPS’ founding followed Stevenson’s travels to Tibet and rural India, where he examined firsthand accounts of individuals (primarily children, with their caretakers as witnesses) who showed signs of being reincarnated.
He referred to these subjects as CORT cases, or “cases of the reincarnation type," a term still in use at DOPS today.
Born in 1918, Stevenson endured frequent bouts of bronchitis during his childhood, leaving him sickly and bedridden.
Between bouts of illnesses, he found himself wondering if his recurring health issues were due to some karmic roots in a previous life. This curiosity, alongside his access to his mother’s library of reincarnation literature, sparked a lifelong interest in “anomalous phenomena,” a blanket term for what most might consider supernatural experiences.
As a student of Freudian psychoanalysis in psychology's early days, Stevenson had gained attention in 1957 for publishing a paper challenging the rigid view of human personality, suggesting it was more malleable than previously assumed.
This sparked backlash among his peers, along with heated criticism. It was an experience he would grow accustomed to as his research delved deeper into unconventional topics.
However, like Dr. Penberthy, Dr. Stevenson was uniquely positioned to make his case.
His background in the mainstream sciences provided a bulletproof foundation that proved useful as his theories and research methods proved more unconventional.
Even the hardiest debunkers couldn’t deny how immensely qualified he was a practicing psychiatrist and academic, lending new credence to his theories about consciousness potentially surviving death.
He was, in other words, secure in his academic standing at one of the most renowned universities in the country. His work, far from being dismissed, became a large body of research at DOPS, which now hosts the largest database of anomalous experiences.
Stevenson reflected on his journey in the Journal of Scientific Exploration in 2006, writing:
Stevenson passed away in 2017 from a chronic lung infection. His research, however, has found a new direction under the leadership of Dr. Jim Tucker, who leads the current efforts to continue Stevenson’s legacy as Director of DOPS and Bonner-Lowry Associate Professor of Psychiatry.
While Dr. Tucker has continued Dr. Stevenson’s research on reincarnation, the Division as a whole now specializes in investigating other anomalous phenomena that can be studied using the scientific method, including Near Death Experiences, Out of Body Experiences, and Altered States of Consciousness (including those induced by psychedelic drugs like psilocybin).
Today, DOPS continues to be completely donor-funded, as it was during its inception.
When skeptics counter claims of the existence of an afterlife, they often take refuge in numbers.
Data.
After all, data doesn’t lie, and many assume that the statistics around such topics are clear in their verdicts: The world is an exclusively physical place, and our consciousnesses – inextricably linked with the matter making up our brains – can’t possibly survive beyond the death of the body.
There are, however, numbers that tell another story.
In a Pew survey conducted between March 27-April 2, 2023 and cited by Dr. Penberthy in her presentation on after-death communications, researchers found that 53% of U.S. adults say they’ve been visited by or communicated with a dead family member “in a dream or in some other form.”
In the same survey, respondents were asked whether they had felt the presence of a deceased family member in the past 12 months. 34% of them said that they had.
“A lot of my colleagues had no idea there was a Pew Research poll on this, and the numbers are staggering," said Dr. Penberthy, who often refers to these numbers when expressing the frequency of these events in people's lives. "I think everyone in the mainstream assumed after-death communications were something very rare – sort of like, you know, in the category of ghost stories and stuff like that. So, to see that was pretty impactful, certainly."
Respondents varied in spiritual and religious beliefs – even atheists and agnostics were among those who had acknowledged an after-death communication.
“Roughly half (48%) of Americans who are religiously unaffiliated – atheists, agnostics, and those who report their religion is “nothing in particular” – say they have ever been visited by a dead relative in a dream or other form. However, those who describe their religion as nothing in particular are much more likely to say they have ever been visited by a deceased loved one (58%) than are agnostics (34%) and atheists (26%),” the study said.
The walls of Dr. Marieta Pehlivanova’s office at DOPS headquarters in Charlottesville are lined with books and the bust of some stone-faced scientist. Steel filing cabinets labeled with the names of research subjects lined the walls, many of them bearing the names of research subjects and their respective supernatural phenomena.
Near Death Experiences. Out of Body Experiences. After-Death Communications. CORT cases – Cases of the Reincarnation Type – labeled in pen with the names of families who had come in with reports of their children sharing unsettling memories not their own.
Dr. Pehlivanova has a mass of thick, dark hair, deep-set, black eyes and a focused yet faraway look about her.
She is soft-spoken, a skilled statistician and expert data analyst, but there’s something about her that hints at a kind of dreamlike disposition.
Pehlivanova received her undergraduate degree in Mathematical Statistics at American University, graduating Summa cum laude before getting her M.A. and Ph.D at the University of Pennsylvania in Experimental Psychology, later on with a Cognitive Neuroscience focus.
Before arriving at DOPS, she worked as a Biostatistician at the Medstar Health Institute in Maryland for several years.
When asked how her statistical background gave her an advantage as a researcher at DOPS, she looked into the distance and measured her response carefully, never quite making eye contact for long.
“We all have different strengths and weaknesses," she began, "and for me, I can do my own analyses. I don't need to outsource that. …That's also a big reason why the senior researchers got interested in hiring me. I was getting a PhD in Psychology at a good university, but I also had this statistical background that I think kind of put me on the map.”
Like most statisticians and mathematicians, Pehlivanova takes a deep interest in patterns. In her area of study, she said she’s found the most incredible patterns in her studies of near-death experiences.
Without fail, there are particular features that emerge in most cases of this phenomenon despite the idiosyncrasies of each individual experiencer. These have proven to be statistically significant.
She’s particularly intrigued by the “life review” as a feature of NDEs.
Life reviews are likely the origin of the commonplace saying “to have your life flash before your eyes.” It is a phenomenon in which a person who is unconscious or clinically dead for a period of time witnesses or re-experiences their life play out in incredible detail during the stretch of time that they aren’t responsive.
The forms that these experiences take vary widely. Some have been on record saying that they had seen their lives unfold from birth to death on giant metaphysical screens in front of them.
Many others claim to feel the emotions they themselves have inflicted upon others during life. Other times, an omniscient knowing has been reported. For example, trauma patients will accurately describe interactions that have occurred around them while they were clinically dead, or even when they weren’t in the room at all.
“It could be something small that happened years ago. They didn't think twice about it [when it first happened], but it impacted someone else. This is more of an example of a feature to me that's very interesting.”
It was clear that Pehlivanova was mentally scanning through the different accounts that have crossed her desk over the years, her tone becoming more animated.
"People who have near-death experiences – especially deep ones that are rich in these features and intensity – tend to change very profoundly in predictable ways,” she said, now making direct eye contact. “On average, we know that one of the strongest changes [after-near death experiences] is that they lose their fear of death, sometimes almost instantaneously. There's also a lot of changes in terms of becoming more interested in spiritual matters, having a strength and belief in life after death, becoming more interested in helping other people, less interested in material stuff.”
These changes are often sudden and unprecedented. Someone who may have struggled to overcome an addiction, faced constant relapses and spent decades in treatment, might from one day to the next overcome it after experiencing one instantaneous life review.
For psychologists to discount this simply because it seems supernatural, Pehlinova argues, is harmful to the field of clinical psychology as a whole.
“In terms of human psychology, just speaking as a psychologist, it's very difficult for humans to change, right? People can change if they want to, but it's not an easy thing, so people do interventions and therapy. Yet, for some people, it's possible for this experience to change them so profoundly. In the realm of psychology research, this is very extraordinary.”
Giraud remembers the day in her friend’s backyard often.
“When that happened, I didn't think anything of it except that, well, I was lucky that that happened to me, and that made me feel better about my situation, because I was mourning and that brought some light into my life. Not thinking anything more than it was just an experience with nature.”
But when her time in her friend’s yard had started to come to an end and it was time to go inside, she pointed at a dragonfly whizzing above her that caught her attention.
“Oh, look at that! It’s blue, it’s beautiful!”
Down it came, landing gracefully on the side of the finger she was pointing with. Its cobalt iridescence gleamed in the setting sun. Giraud watched it as it carefully studied her.
“What’s up?” Giraud said.
The little insect bobbed its head up and down. A response? No – it must be her imagination. Giggling, she said it again.
“What’s up?”
Right on cue, the blue dragonfly bobbed its head in response. This time, her friend shrieked. The dragonfly remained still, unfazed.
“What’s up!” Giraud laughed again at the little creature, and once again, its head gave an unmistakable, quick little movement, as if in casual greeting. It seemed wholeheartedly committed to staying planted on her skin, its bead-like eyes looking at her with something that resembled recognition.
“How are you doing that?” her friend asked incredulously.
Giraud had no answer to give. They quietly observed the creature for a while, until it was time to go back inside. Giraud lowered her finger to a nearby ledge.
“I set it down, and it hopped off my finger, like it knew what I wanted it to do. And I went inside. … That night, we couldn't talk about anything else,” she said.
This, Giraud asserted, was her first supernatural encounter. While she didn't put too much stock into it at the time, something about it felt more profound than most of the experiences she’d had up until that point.
A few weeks later, she decided to mourn by the ocean. I might as well feel terrible in a beautiful place, she thought. It was a place where she always felt at home.
Sitting on the sand that afternoon, watching the horizon, another dragonfly landed on her foot.
“I've never seen dragonflies on the beach,” she said. “So I'm trying not to make a big thing of it, but I'm blown away by it, right? Because now I'm starting to think this is a sign.”
From then on, Giraud would walk out of her home and see multiple dragonflies whiz past, something that she never recalled happening in the years prior.
When they eventually began to come to her on cue after she called them by her son’s name, those around her began to take notice, as well.
“People would just be flabbergasted, because nobody could explain why it was happening,” Giraud said. “It went on for like ten years. Sadly, it doesn't happen anymore, but for whatever reason during those ten years, I'd be telling people about this experience, trying not to sound crazy.”
Inevitably, some well-meaning people in her life began to worry for her sanity. Giraud recalled the instances in which she could see the people's expressions shift once she confided in them, and the pity that took shape in their faces, as if she was lost and in grave need of help.
“People are looking at me like, ‘Oh, you poor thing,’” she said. “I'm like, ‘No, really, I'm trying to tell you something.’”
Though religious, Giraud’s mother was never one for superstitions. Outside of an eternal life she believed could only be gained through traditional Christian means, she hadn’t given much thought to an afterlife. As a child, Giraud never felt connected to the church and stopped going altogether – her mother didn’t seem to mind.
Her mother was, at first, the most worried about Ingrid’s new fixation on dragonflies. Giraud’s insistence on her new gift and her tendency to call them by her son’s name made her wary. She wondered if her daughter was experiencing a potentially maladaptive fantasy, gradually pulling away from an existence that had become too painful to bear.
“There were times where I tried to explain to my mom what was happening, and she thought I needed to see a psychiatrist. She was like, ‘She's lost it. She's totally lost it.’”
Feeling alone and misunderstood, Giraud quickly learned when to keep these experiences to herself, and when it was safe to share them.
Looking back, she can empathize with those who didn’t believe her, acknowledging that she would likely feel the same had she been in their shoes.
“I'm also a realist. I'm not somebody that all willy-nilly starts thinking things [like this are real], because I've been forced into a life where I had to be real about the things in front of me. I had no time for games. I had no time for wishy-washy. Give it to me straight. I'll give it to you straight. And that's it.”
On May 22, 2024, the above review was submitted in response to a manuscript proposal sent in by Dr. Marina Weiler, Assistant Professor of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences at DOPS.
Back in 2016, Dr. Weiler joined the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in order to research the effects of brain stimulation on patients experiencing cognitive decline. Her background included using cutting-edge fMRI technology to investigate brain changes in those suffering from Alzheimer’s. Later on, at UCLA, she was involved in a project which identified biomarkers associated conditions resulting from traumatic brain injuries.
Together with two co-editors, Dr. Weiler had submitted a paper on an in-depth study she had conducted on the history of remote viewing, one of the many anomalous phenomena that fell under DOPS’ purview of research.
Experiments on remote viewing usually unfolded via the following process:
The test subject (who normally qualifies as psychically “gifted,” in the words of Dr. Weiler) sits in a steel-walled, soundproof room inside the DOPS lab. In another room, a physical target object is placed in a random location.
While under observation, the test subject is asked to use techniques like visualization, mental imagery, or intuitive sensing to attempt to perceive the location of the target. The subject then records their perceptions, typically through written descriptions, drawings, or other forms of reporting.
Interestingly, Dr. Weiler says, there has been greater statistical chance for success in guessing the location of the target if another non-remote-viewing participant was physically looking at it.
The results of remote-viewing studies have historically been significant enough to justify the U.S. government's 18-year long funding for a program called "Stargate." Founded in 1977 in response to Cold War tensions, mainstream scientists were working with the CIA as recently as 1995 to harness the potential military uses of such "gifts."
In her own findings, Weiler drew compelling relationships between moments of clairvoyance and the brain’s production of “alpha waves,” a type of brain wave pattern associated with certain states of consciousness and mental activity, such as sleep.
Such correlations have been so significant that Dr. Weiler is now calling for a “shift in a paradigm.” Her colleagues at DOPS agree.
“It was a huge paper, like 50 pages, where we explored the historical aspects of remote viewing, how it's been used for intelligence gathering, the military, everything,” explained Dr. Weiler.
In contrast to Dr. Pehlivanova’s office, Dr. Weiler's workspace is decorated in greenery. Photos of her and her toddler sit on the windowsill and various surfaces of the room.
She wore a blazer over a t-shirt emblazoned with some faded 2010s graphics and talked with her hands. Despite her warmth, there was a hint of hesitancy in her voice as she explained her areas of study. It was a kind of wariness that may be justified in the scope of her recent experiences with peers in the psychology field.
In reference to the review cited above, Weiler said she was faced with multiple “very disrespectful” responses.
Another reply to the same manuscript concluded with the simple phrase:
While Dr. Pehlivanova – the statistician with an interest in near-death experiences – hadn’t faced outright criticism around her research, she acknowledged that things were different for Dr. Weiler, who mainly focused her studies on mediumship (or communication with the spirits of the deceased) and remote viewing.
“Maybe one day, things will change, as far as skeptics,” said Pehlivanova. “I mean, there's skeptics and there's debunkers. A true skeptic is a skeptic, but they're open minded, and I have no issue with that. It’s a good thing to be skeptical. But there are debunkers who are just not even willing to engage with the literature. I don't even engage with these people.”
Dr. Weiler seemed similarly unbothered, even faithful in the future of her area of study. Her primary mission at DOPS is to create a safe space for those who are afraid to come forward with stories about unexplainable experiences, those like Ingrid Giraud.
“I think I would agree with Dr. Penberthy, that these experiences are transformative, and when [an experiencer is] shut down, they can be very detrimental. You know, if you don't talk about it, …it's just gonna grow a ghost inside you. If you just talk about it, you realize everyone's had these experiences. They're common. I'm not alone, I'm not different.”
While her personal understanding of reality and consciousness has shifted continuously throughout her time as a researcher, she seems to have personally come to the conclusion that our consciousness is primary, while the physical body and the material plane it lives in is not.
In other words, to be free of the physical body is to return to the natural state of the soul.
“After a while, we come back here, and then we learn a little bit more in a different body, in a different life, in a different reality, in a different space on time,” she said.
While this was a conclusion Weiler had come to personally, it is also one that she admits she had yet to prove.
It was a balmy summer day when Ingrid Giraud and her nephew Adam, then 18 years old, strolled through the brightly colored gates of the Six Flags in New Jersey.
The sky was a crystalline blue, and the air smelled like popcorn.
“Where do you want to go first?” she asked him.
The pair was giddy and gleeful, welcome feelings against a backdrop of grief in which they had been living ever since Vaughn’s death not long before. There had also been an undercurrent of anxiety lurking beneath each family gathering ever since Adam decided to join the Marine Corps.
Adam had always loved roller coasters growing up, and Giraud did too. It was their “thing.” When they planned to go to the amusement park together as a final goodbye before he left for the Marines, the two made it a point just to go by themselves – auntie and nephew.
They boarded the first rollercoaster right away, too eager to wait. They’d catch up on the ride, they decided.
“How are you doing?” Adam asked. The attendant started his way down the rows ahead of them, ensuring that their safety bars were locked. The ride was the kind in which the riders’ legs hang down, so the restraints went over the shoulders.
How are you doing?
The question was a loaded one, but Giraud was mostly eager to tell him about everything she had experienced recently. She explained the magical encounters with the dragonflies, about how she’d been seeing them nearly everyday since Vaughn passed. More dragonflies than she had ever seen in her entire life! And what’s more – she could even call them! All she had to do was call out the name “Vaughn!” and down they came to greet her. They’d even react to his name.
The rollercoaster gave a mechanical jolt as it began its nearly vertical climb up a massive hill.
“They nod at me!” she continued, and paused abruptly when her eyes met his.
Adam’s face had fallen. Reading his expression, Giraud knew what he was thinking.
Oh, my poor auntie. It’s finally happened. She’s cracked.
Giraud could feel his well-meaning pity burning a hole right through her chest.
They reached the top of the hill, from where the whole park below looked like a tiny pop-up book. Then, something whizzed past.
“Look! There’s one right now!”
The dragonfly swept back down, soared between their seats, and perched itself on the row in front of them, studying them.
“Wow,” whispered Adam. It disappeared in one swift movement, like a shooting star.
Now that Adam and Giraud were at the top of the rollercoaster, teetering on the edge of the first drop, she extended her arm and pointed. The dragonfly returned the instant she reached out, landing on her finger, perfectly on cue. Planted firmly on her skin, the small creature watched them both as they dangled in the air, awestruck.
When Giraud looked over at Adam, his jaw had completely dropped.
“How did you do that?”
“I've been trying to tell you!” she replied.
“Oh my God,” he said. “That’s… that's Vaughn.”
As soon as he said it, the little creature jerked and looked at him with an unmistakable sort of familiarity.
The rollercoaster lurched forward, the dragonfly flew into the sky, and down they went.
Adam screamed with joy, tears streaming horizontally as the forces of gravity yanked them back towards Earth.
“My cousin’s with me!” he yelled, laughing, falling. “My cousin’s with me! My cousin’s with me!”
Giraud didn’t realize the impact that the dragonflies would have on him. She realized she had been crying too, laughing with him, screaming with joy.
When the ride was over, Adam went to her and hugged her tight. For a while, they held each other and sobbed.
Then, Giraud stepped back.
“Now, he doesn’t want us to be sad,” she said to her nephew, holding on tight to his shoulders. “So we’re going to continue our day and be happy, ok?”
They were walking on air for the rest of the day.
Now, as she recounts the story, Giraud can’t help but smile.
“I think it was impactful for a lot of people that witnessed it,” she said.
While always committed to the bold pursuit of knowledge that is core to all the sciences, the entire DOPS team is remarkably at ease with the unknown—not just as scientists and clinicians, but as human beings.
"I believe, personally, that this is part of the human condition. That we are made to perceive these things," Dr. Penberthy said with serene and impenetrable assurance, sitting in her office at DOPS. Next to her, her bookshelf with the mushroom garland. "I really am not that concerned if I ever find the ‘reality’ of this, because it is real to them and it has a real positive effect in their life. And so to me, as a clinician – as a human – that is important and needs to be honored.”
After hearing Giraud's story, both Dr. Weiler and Dr. Pehlivanova are inclined to agree.
"I think she's lucky that she had all these experiences with dragonflies," said Dr. Weiler. "And I'm sure they meant something to her. If it was the spirit of her son, or any type of after-death communication she was having with her son... I don't think we'll ever know that, but I don't think it matters."
For her part, Ingrid Giraud holds these memories close. She even got a dragonfly tattoo on her finger, as a reminder of the secret she was let in on -- that maybe there is more after this life, after all.
"There were all these stressful feelings and suddenly, it's almost like doors burst open. I feel all this sunshine being let in and fresh air and everything. It was almost like he was released, and so was I, in a sense. I guess I never actually put it that way before, but yeah. That's exactly what it felt like. Like we were both set free."